Can ANYONE post a picture of the retrofitted 6-5 reducer on the 58/61m Schwing? I remember it being discussed and really need to see one done! We keep busting clamps, clamp bolts,and brackets!

ive never heard of this? Is your pump equipped with the harsh mix reducer, or the short 6-5 reducer? because that could be your problem there?

I saw a 32 meter at a auction with a 3 meter 6-5 reducer , first deck pipe was your reducer.

Todd Usher worked on mine a few years ago but I dont remember what exactly he did. I dont think there was any type of retrofit, he just beefed it up a little bit and added a pipe bracket or 2. I can try to snap some pictures for you tomorrow if I get a chance.

I will say whatever he did has worked wonders, have not had any issues but one of the bends just after the reducer cracked on me one time after beating some nasty stuff thru the boom all day.

This isnt a great picture but it may help you determine if there is any difference. If you look dirctly under my pad rack you see the area that the paint is peeling pretty bad, that is the area he welded an extra plate with some brackets on to beef it up quite a bit. He had some pictures on his website of the work he did on my pump as well. Hope this helps

Mudslinger,

if you have the old set up, with the double 90's and the short reducer, you need to add  two clamps on each end of the reducer, use a u- bolt and weld some bracketry to the tray. You also need to add a clamp after the double 90. We did that and that was the end of our problems. The 3m reducer would be ideal, but there is no room on that truck for that

Hey FunnyBoom,glad to see that repair/update is still holding up. That particular update was done to a few of the older models when Schwing first started selling the 58/61 meter booms.

@Mudslinger,there are some parts that only Schwing has that you will need to  order to fix your problem.Talk to Jim Mielke there and he can get the ball rolling as far as parts go. And also give you some advice on what else will be needed to fix the issue with your boom. If you send me an e-mail tusher@cbinspection.com I can forward you more pictures of what I did to Funnybooms truck to fix the problem.

A u-bolt was added at the 5" end of the reducer.  We also replaced all the clamps and used either bolt ons with 14mm bolts or I found some bolt ons that used, I believe 5/8's bolts and nuts.  Since we did this we have had no problems.  I will try to forward some photos,

This came from Schwing:

One solution GmbH has given us is to use 10.9 bolts instead of 8.8 bolts.  It would obviously depend on where the clamp broke to see if this would work.  

I don't get it.. If this is a known problem than why do you have to look for a solution yourself? Why doesn't schwing come with a good solution for all the pumps and come and fix it for free??? It sounds like  a designfault...

Dipstick:

that's what Schwing did, they went to the set up, that is shown in the picture

I am guessing he has the old style were the 6-5 reducer lays flat with the 2 90's to the deck

 AZ pumper look at the picture. Over 33 years I've noticed that manufacures dont do anything until it's brought out in to the open. The 1st light weight 42 meter booms were uncontrolible until they were confronted with the problem. You ever notice the fins on the bottom of a rock valve, before they were there we used to weld bolt's on the bottom of the rock valve to swipe the excess concrete in the bottom of the hopper to keep it clean, just some old fact's.

Dont need one go take a look on that black 58 that says western on it and tell me how the reducer lays it is not at a 45. It lays flat and has 2 90's that tie it in to the deck pipe.

Glad to see i'm not the only one. I've been dealing with this for 3yrs. We switched out to the european style transition because it would crack the other style. That helped but it moved problem to the reducer and to the 2 elbows. Busted bolts, clamps, one reducer ripped apart at the clamp etc. We did weld a bracket to the  clamp that holds the 2 elbows together and it took the movement out of that area. When we talk to them about it they act like we're the only ones in the country with this problem.

Ok gboom.. But it looks like they missed out on some of them. Why didn't they fix the one of mudslinger than?

And weave is already struggeling for 3 year.. That shouldn't be possible.. He sure must have had some contact with schwing in the last 3 years if he owns a 58m...

We've had contact. They've come out. They've tested. They don't know. They even wondered how the mixers were discharging into the hopper. Personally i think the change from 5" to 4.5" is to soon. They probably .should have carried it  out to the  2nd. All of my breakages are usually in the 280 to 290 bar range.

dipstick:

Schwing changed the design to the one shownin the picture in 2007, possible that Mudlingers pump was built before that change. 

I am not sure if you can retrofit an older set up to the newer, thats is a question to ask Schwing.