Rhino | 11-02-2007 | comment profile send pm notify |
Hello out there, This is my first post, and I'm looking for some honest suggestions on which direction I should be heading regarding my next line pump purchase. I currently own a couple of Schwing BPA-500's and use them primarily for residential pours and some smaller commercial pours. I would like to get into more larger commercial flat slab pours than I already have been doing, so I need a larger machine. I'm not looking to pump 1000 to 2000 yards/metres per job, but maybe 50 to 500 yards/metres to start off with and maybe grow into larger pours as time goes on. I'm considering either a Schwing WP 750-18x or a Reed B 70HP. Are either of these the right pump for the job? I know that it may be difficult to answer this question as you would ask me: how many guys are on the placing crew and how fast can they put down the concrete? How thick is the slab? etc., but I'm looking at the average commercial job if that's even possible. I will be considering: price, capability, flexibility, reliability, availability to parts and service, quality, future growth, etc. Suggestions from operators and owners would be most helpful, and thank you in advance!! |
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Bob | 11-02-2007 | reply profile send pm notify |
We are all people with an opinion. It is almost guaranteed in the constitution, used to be anyhow. As for my opinion; there is no contest. REED ! Check out the specs. Unless you have an outstanding Schwing dealer, (and they are out there) pound for pound the REED (IMHO) is the better value. |
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typesdubs | 11-02-2007 | reply profile send pm notify |
I have a couple month old 750-18x and absolutely love it. Going from a 500 to a 750 isn't that large of a jump though, yes a few more trucks an hour but still. To me it sounds like something a little bigger would suit you. Have you considered a truck mounted line pump? I also have a Schwing 1418 and for the larger pours it is convenient not to be towing something, having lots of water to wash everything with, and lots of room for pipes and hoses. My opinion go with the Schwing |
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Mand M Concrete | 11-02-2007 | reply profile send pm notify |
Hey Rhino nothing to do with line pumps but i just bought a 37 meter boom pump from Reed and i can tell you that the service is the best...and the machine run like a charm.... |
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DIGGER | 11-02-2007 | reply profile send pm notify |
Also contact George Clingerman at Transcrete America, their P100 and P120 eat Schwings for breakfast. They also don't mind eating a little pussy (they also don't sponsor here) As for Reed, can't say much as they started with Transcrete technology. Get to see both a Reed & Transcrete in action, talk to an owner ...... but with the size of pours you talk about maybe a boom is for you ........ then go Reed. |
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REEDPumps | 11-02-2007 | reply profile send pm notify |
Yep, REED did partner with Transcrete back in the 1980's But we've made quite a few advances/changes to our pumps in the past 20 years - - engine hoods are just one example :) http://www.reedpumps.com/concretepumphistory.htm |
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Slavedattler | 11-02-2007 | reply profile send pm notify |
I cant give a fair compare as we only know Schwing, not Reed but open for info as the trailer pumps are the only Reeds we see. Up north -20-30c But Schwing has a lot more problems than Putz in these conditions. All I know is the Schwing is a long lasting machine compared to the others by far, and very mechanic friendly which is what 80cad thats 100US per hr. LOL never thought I would be comparing our dollar like that, must be an all time high. |
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eugene | 11-02-2007 | reply profile send pm notify |
simple run two line pumps on one job or go for boom pump, maybe alliance 33m |
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DIGGER | 11-03-2007 | reply profile send pm notify |
Yes, the good old days when air cooled motors on Mayco's, Whiteman's and Transcrete Sidewinder's were the 'Macho thing to do' We all now have to meet air and noise laws. All pumps are better for it. Invite Schwing, Reed and Transcrete to a "pumpout" and see all three in action. |
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Carl | 11-03-2007 | reply profile send pm notify |
eugene, I understand what you are saying about booms, but they wont fit through a small door inside a buiding and pump 2'' slump 300 ft up and shotcrete, like i am doing with a REED B-20 HP with 2100psi concrete pressure. Average boom 1000 psi. I can give you a name of a pumper in MO who owns(reed , schwing) both if you would like to speek to him. |
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bts | 01-27-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
schwing or putz are the best, schwing is easier to work on.we just pumped 840 feet in to the other end of tunnel with a 32m with trailer kit,1200 pump kit ,5 inch line,pressure at 325 bar no frickin prob but not for rookies who needs a trailer pump when any boom pump can do both |