Hi,

I have a demand for a low price pumps parts in my market. I have heard that many Chinese hoses are a terrible quality, but I guess they also should have some companies making a tolerable quality hoses and other parts. Does anybody have the experience with any Chinese products that you could recommend? I completely understand that it will not last as much like a quality brands, but I do not want to order from the first supplier and see destroyed hose after one week.

I see many companies offering these parts, but I would be happy to get recommendations.

Thank you for your experience!

The most important thing about hose and pipe is that you want to have the support of the company behind you. I have seen where people order hose, pipe elbows and there were all bad and you have nobody to go to for help. The other probelm is say a hose blows up? you carry all of the liability, if it was a bad hose it is your fault you will not get a company from China to go to court with you or have insurance and so on. If you are going to order something from china order fire works because you know they will blow up but as far as Pipe, Hose and Elbows stick to Conforms, Esser, Putz, Alliance and ACME they are all great companies and they stand by their products and support you. I have a nice picture for you.

Todd is right. Chinese do not recognize international law. Especially liability.

The companies mentioned all respect and abid by international law and are very much focused on quality products worldwide. There are tons of examples for wear value and failure.

All mentioned are great to deal with too.

Radios ant tv"s only ...please!

Good one 36

wong ton soup with that pump.

I have a feeling now that our favorite German manufactures are now owned by China this is gonna happen more often.

you can try to contact with menggeer@gmail.com

there must be reliable parts in china,I have never heard that all the chinese pumps used the OEM parts and also no news they need to change the parts day by day.

so when we never know all the facts,we shouldnt speack too much about it no matter good or bad.

I am dealing since a long time with parts for concrete pumps. From my expirience most of the parts are not in accord to the safety standards, are to heavy or have other quality problems  Therefore for me they are not tolerable. In addition the lifetime is not comperable to parts from well known suppliers. In addition you normally pay in advance if you deal with chinese suppliers directly and never know what you get when you open up the container

There is an old saying: Quality has its price!  

The only fact I know about chinese parts for sure is if they sponsered this site. Pictures like this would not be allowed to be posted no matter how many eyes it opened or lives it would save.

I believe in safety over profit and buy reputable parts as well as reputable machines with good solid backings. I believe each and every operator as well as each one of my customers employees should get to go home to their families each and every night safely.  You might save ten bucks or maybe a thousand, but eventually it will bite you in the arse.  To avoid passing knowledge that could save lives to make a buck and have that on your conscince is greedy capitalism and not a pro for the industry.

dcrider182 hit the nail on the head. Also, if members are not permitted to voice anything other than positive opinions/experiences with regards to the site sponsors, how much weight does that same positive feedback carry??? not much in my opinion...

Members being banned for "bashing the Chinese" (the alleged bashing was directed a towards a Chinese owned site sponsor), and the same site moderator doing the banning is posting comments such as those contained in the second message from the top of this thread.

I'm fully aware of and respect that this site is primarily a business , but the deleting of honest member feedback towards companys that also happen to be listed to the right of the screen is getting to be a little bit ridiculous... 

The members are what makes this site, without them there would be no sponsors. I believe that at this point the members are deserving a little bit more respect.

Dear 16 Cell. I understand what you are saying and how you feel. I just want you to know that if a company that is insured, bonded backs up the product I do not care where the parts are from, at least then you have support but if you are just going to order parts or system from China that is foolish at least from the stories I have heard. You have no recourse when you get a shipment of pipe, elbows or what ever and they are dented, bent or have air in the castings. That is why I warned people about it. 

Also I know you think Members are very important and I love you guys with all my heart but members are not what makes the site for sponsors, what makes this site so great for sponsors (feeds my family) is that first time owners and new buys search the internet for a part or a concrete pump and they find ConcretePumping.com and end up building a relationship with one of my sponsors. 

What makes this site great for operators is they can get a wide range of answers from a wide range of people and they can share their lives with other like minded people.

Now please remember only members can post on this web site, members are important but they must follow the rules, you can not bash a sponsor, we do not do public floggings here. We can ask for help and you can also ask people to email you for their thoughts on a subject.

We have very few problems with this site, it's members and the sponsors. I have to balance things and over the last 20 years I think i have gotten somewhat good at it. At least I am not getting any more death threats.

Dear dcrider182  what are you talking about, I post pictures of broken booms from my sponsors, I have posted almost everyone of my sponsors booms tiped over, I am thanked all the time for my work in safety.

You must just be trying to insult me with this silliness. I have always picked safety first even before my income. You do not realise is that every company has haters, competitors and salesman that will badmouth their competitor or have someone else do it for them. My sponsors are my family and I care for them and look out for them.

This site helps a lot of people and I am thanked all the time but this is not a free speech zone, this site is not owned by the public, this site is part of my biz and I must regulate it.

I love it when someone like you gets pissed off at me for deleting their post so they go out and spend $500.00 and start their own message board and they boast how their site has no rules and will not be like Todds site or they will not even use my name they say, "that other guys site" and 6 months down the road they are banning people and starting to create a whole set of rules.  I know operators who start their own site and all hell brakes out for them and they end up getting in trouble at work.

I spend a lot of money on this site, last month I spent about 4k in updates and changes. This site cost me $500 a month to run so forgive me if I do not let anyone do and say anything they want on it ok. Besides if you want to see a change call me up and talk to me instead of posting a pissy message on my board, let us reason like men.

anyway, I am glad you guys bring this up once in a while, it does help reinforce the rules.

Peace, be safe

You have to carefully use parts from China. They are just looking to make a buck. The thing you want to look for is someone that is going to stand behind the product and not just sell it. Most of the Chinese pipe are heavier that manufacturers specifications. If you place heavy pipe on your pump, you are opening yourself for liability as you are negligent for not following the guidelines in your operators manuals. As to hose, most of the Chinese hose I see and have used does not hold up to pressure and live very long. Again, there is no warranty or support for these products when they go wrong and blow. As other people posted, quality has a price. Talk with people in your area and contact site sponsors like Conforms for more information. Spending a little more now can save your business and your butt down the road.

WOW

I am amazed you think i would start website to compete against you. I am not in the business of websites but thank you for the ridiclue.  Sometimes I think you forget that the people that post here are what make you successefull, even though once an account is created it cannot be un created, so your actual member number is a false.

You say you dont follow the money but case in point you ran down to the docks to make a video of the 70  meter putz.  Then later bragged about the popuilarity of such video.  Keep in mind when  that same owner of that truck bought the first legal 63 meter in California. You refused to take picrtures of it and banned it from your site. Why? Because Putz was not a sponser.

I have tried to talk to you in the past,  but your head has blown so big with your success (as it  might or it shall in a person in your status) that you yourself have forgotton where you come from.

I think you created a good service but if I posted a picture tomorrow of an outrigger pin falling out, you would pull it and say let the manufacturure handle it. Well after watching, (GM and Toyota), That is not the best option.

Really who or what manufacture could it hurt to get an honest opinion about a pump from a guy that runs it?

I do not think you are going to start your own web page I am just saying it might be a good idea for you to do so, then you can deal with all the haters and see what it is like. What is funny is that you say that I say I do not follow the money but that is not true, I DO FOLLOW THE MONEY, I run a business. Part of what this web site does is make money.

Peace dcrider182 why you hating 

just stating facts that seem to make you butt hurt. How does thius site make you moeny when you just said it costs you five fundred dollars?